In light of some of the misunderstandings about my Oprah rant, I would like to say ahead of time that I am not calling out all authors who have an internet presence. Some, like Neil Gaiman and Margaret Atwood, are lovely. Some others are oversensitive douches. The latter are the ones I mean any time I talk about authors’ bad internet behavior. The only ones. Forever.
Mandy from Adventures in Borkdom tipped us off to major recent Goodreads drama between some YA authors and reviewers. In both instances, the reviewer took umbrage with the book in question for perpetuating what they felt were dangerous stereotypes to which young readers shouldn’t be exposed; in both instances, authors or friends of authors publicly took the reviewer to task for “attacking” the work. I had thought to write about it, but Cuddlebuggery already has some great summaries of some of the dramatic incidents in question, if you’d like to check it out for yourselves. I’ll wait. (Just hurry back? Because I really did write a post, just not summarizing those particular events.)
Mandy passed the links along to Amy, who passed the links along to me, possibly because I’ve actually had a negative author run-in myself, on Shelfari–a story which I plan to share with you now, so sit back, friends and neighbors, while I spin a yarn.
Back when Shelfari still had the friending system rather than the follow system, I had a huge note on my profile (much like the one on my Goodreads profile, but a little nicer) that said something to the effect of “Attention authors: do not add me to mass-friending expeditions for the sole purpose of promoting your book, because I probably won’t ever read it.” (Charming, no?) This mass-friending-to-plug-books behavior was rampant on Shelfari at the time; the message was at the top of my profile, in bold font, for maximum warding-off effect. I also have a list of things I like and dislike on the same profile. And, of course, I have my shelf all filled out with books I’ve read, books I’m interested in reading, and so forth. Any author who genuinely thought that they could connect with me had means to figure out whether or not I would be a good fit for their works, and I encouraged them to contact me on a personal level, rather than with a pitch about their book. I’m not a monster, I just play one on TV.
One day, I got this friend request from author James Ross:
“Please don’t view this as a mass-friending. You live in Columbus and that happens to be a golf mecca. I thought that either you or your husband my [sic] want to be informed about stories delivered from a golf setting. I’m a relatively new author who has written a novel a year for four years. My setting is Prairie Winds Golf Course which sits high atop the Mississippi river bluffs just east of St. Louis. The topics of my books are social issues that discuss justice, discrimination, white-collar crime, fraud, div”
Yes, the message just cut off there. Yes, he really did pitch me about recommending his books to my husband, who I guess is supposed to be some kind of sports nut because he has a penis.
This was the most bizarre approach by an author that I’d ever had. You’ll note that he did, indeed, read my warning, because he mentioned the mass-friending that I had said I didn’t want to be subjected to. And . . . . . who writes golf novels? And . . . . . who contacts a woman he doesn’t know and makes suggestions for her husband? Did I fall asleep and wake up in 1950? If my husband wanted Shelfari authors to contact him with recommendations, he’d start a goddamn Shelfari account of his own.
I sent him a reply that he has since deleted–he deleted my comments back to him with haste–that said something along the lines of me not being aware that Columbus is a “golf mecca.” I dressed him down a tad for contacting me about his books despite clearly having read the caveat at the top of my page asking not to be contacted. I also questioned him as to what in blue hell made him think, based on the available information on my profile and shelf, I would like golf novels? I have zero sports-related anything on my profile. There’s no “Go Bucks!” No books about sports. Not even a whiff of sportsiness.
I got this reply (my bolding for emphasis, italicized comments for incredulity):
“I guess the door can swing both ways. It doesn’t seem that you took the time to even read what the books were about. Only the setting is a golf environment. [So golf isn't central to the stories, even though you based your pitch on the fact that I live in a "golf mecca" and mentioned golf three times? Who the hell is your audience? Do you even know? Also, why was I supposed to take time to read what your books were about?]
If you don’t know where Jack Nicklaus is from, where he went to school or where the Memorial tournament is held every year perhaps you don’t know too much about Columbus. I’ve had several people from the area compliment me on bringing the books to their attention. [Perhaps you don't know too much about Columbus, because I've lived in the city limits for six years and you're the only person who's ever mentioned golf to me.]
Obviously you don’t want to hear about new authors. Stay in your comfort zone. Many on this site strongly encourage contact from new authors and for the one that is ticked off there are forty-nine that are thankful that they are informed. Getting comments like yours are part of the territory when you stick your neck out a little to bring news to people. Simply scratch me off your list.” [You were never on the list to scratch off, jerk. Did you forget that you contacted me?]
After he insulted my knowledge of the city I live in and accused me of being an unadventurous reader, the conflict continued much in the same vein, ragesnowballing until Mr. Ross “thanked” me for the “PR” he was getting (he’s going to be really happy about this post, I guess!) and promised to write my “internet persona” into his next book; I think that was code for, “I’m going to make one of my characters a raving bitch, just like you.” The previous exchange, though, illustrates everything that I feel is wrong with the attitude that a certain type of author takes when contacting reviewers or potential fans on the internet: boundaries are often overstepped, catty (or angry) remarks are made by the author when they are not lavished upon warmly or when they feel insulted, the author makes him- or herself look like an ass.
Here’s the kicker when it comes to James Ross: had he apologized to me, and admitted his error sincerely, then countered with some human conversation, I might have stopped being annoyed. And then, I might have suggested some of his books to my family back home. Because every single person on my mom’s side of the family? Golfer. My uncle? Coaches the golf team at my former high school, and probably has dozens of golfy friends from all over Kentucky. (Of course, after that, I had to look up his books–and based on the excerpts I saw, I think I dodged a bullet, because my family would have hated me for recommending them.) None of this happened because Mr. Ross failed to accept that he had, in fact, made an error in ignoring my boundaries. Much like the maxim that a customer who has a bad experience will tell ten friends, who will tell ten friends, Mr. Ross’s interaction with me cemented him in the eyes of many people that I know as being a total douchebag. If he has had many encounters like this, it cannot be good for his career.
I imagine the same might hold true for the negative reviewers I mentioned above. Had the authors been a tiny bit gracious when they felt they had to defend their work–or, had the authors made sure that their friends understood that snidely bashing reviewers is not okay–they might have been able to achieve a meeting of the minds with those reviewers; at the very least, they wouldn’t look like total asshats to people who are following these very public displays. If they had just ignored it? As someone pointed out somewhere in the loads of comments to those incidents, an author with solid work doesn’t need to defend their work. Their fans are more than happy to do so. I agree with this wholeheartedly; if you have a work that stands up on its own, no negative reviews can knock it down. But if you act like an asshole, a lot of people may never even get to your work to find out.
Maybe it’s not fair that reviewers and random internet people can play dirty and authors should play nice; then again, those random internet people probably aren’t trying to sell anybody the reviewed work, while authors are. It comes down to a matter of protecting one’s interests.
As the barrier between readers and authors grows thinner with new internet technology, we’re beginning to see more and more authors–and other kinds of artists, musicians, actors, and so on–who are practically begging for a Public Relations 101 seminar. (How many celebs have shamefully retreated from Twitter after a few too many misguided tweets?) One thing that these authors need to learn, in my considered opinion, is that we Shelfarians and Goodreaders are there to review books, to read reviews of books, and to talk about books. If we connect with authors along the way, it is secondary to the primary goal of finding and consuming more books. Getting snippy or throwing a tantrum at a reader or potential reader makes an author–a supposed professional–look bad to that reader, that reader’s friends, and to anonymous people who view these public exchanges. Hitch up those big girl panties, oversensitive authors, because unless you have a beloved persona that’s based on being snarky and sarcastic toward people, you’re not doing yourself any favors when you act this way. We’re not on those sites for you, we’re there for us.
How do you feel about author interactions with fans? Is an ugly public interaction enough to put you off an author or steer you away from one, or do you only care if they write well? Have you ever had a negative experience with an author? Let’s hear your thoughts!

Honestly, if you as an author venture out on the internet you must surely expect people to tell you what they think? What other reasons could you possibly have to use that channel? (Except mass marketing, I guess. But we call it spam out here and it’s definitely frowned upon.)
The internet is about interacting with people, after all.
Granted, some of those reviews were, um, intense. But I think if you can’t read them without walking away instead of firing back . . . don’t read em, you know?
Here’s my thing–if I didn’t like a book, I’m going to say so. If it’s written like shit, I’m going to say so (in a more professional manner, though, and not because I’m worried about the author, but because that’s just how I am). A bad review is not going to make their book sales dry up. I mean, I’ve told everyone and their mother how awful I think WOLF HALL was, but she’s writing another book, so people must have liked it. Whatever. What WILL dry up an author’s book sales is shitty behavior. I wouldn’t buy some of these author’s books even if they won every award on the planet. If they were the last books on earth, I’d just give up reading.
Truly, you are amazing.
Aahhh! I am honored. You are wonderful.
I guess my biggest problem is self-delusion. How do bad authors not know their work is bad? I mean, yes, sure, all writing is subjective – but some work is SO BAD that even the author’s mother, surely, can’t enjoy it. How do they not KNOW that? And then get angry when someone calls them out on it?
No, no, that’s really neither here nor there. You write something, it’s out there, it’s in the public eye. You’re almost making a contract with the public: “I wrote this. It is now for everyone; do what you will.” If someone reviews it poorly – well, you put it out there. If you don’t want negative feedback, but you still want to write? You have two options. A blog you lock down to private or a pen, a notebook, and a dark corner of your bedroom, bucko. Grow the hell up.
I wouldn’t read a book written by someone who clearly cannot string together a coherent persuasive argument.
Columbus = golf mecca = clearly since you live in Columbus, your husband (and maybe even you too, little lady, when you finish your chores, the dinner has been served, and the kids are in bed) will want to read my poorly written golf novels based on my horrendous synopsis compounded with my shitty attitude!
Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute.
You two ladies are my favorites. After my husband, on whom I dote with my every waking moment.
Not only does it smack of over zealous marketing… it also smells of desperation. Most unattractive.
Basically, I feel there is absolutely no good reason to respond to negative reviews/posts about your work. The odds of you interacting with a negative reviewer/poster and having it turn out WELL for you, the author, are very slim. Some authors can walk right into a negative thread about their work, post a few pithy comments, and turn the whole message board into new friends. Most authors cannot.
I know that book is your baby, and you want to be a protective parent and kick the crap out of those mean bullies saying those mean things, but it will NOT turn out well for you. Just move on, as hard as that is.
Just focus your energy on writing the best books you can. If you do that, hopefully readers who like what you’ve written will feel strongly enough to defend your work for you.
I have been on Goodreads for a few years and have come across reviews that have been targeted by fans and authors who have been extremely negative and at times really ugly. A friend of mine on Goodreads did not like the book “The Beach” by Alex Garland. A fan decided to go on a tirade in the comments. She has a PhD. in Literature and offered some good points to why she felt the way she did. The commenter did not care and continued to call her names and insult her through commenting. It almost made her want to stop reviewing books and in the end she decided to make her profile private.
Personally, I have found that how we feel about books is based on our experiences and where we are in life. There are books I reviewed years ago, that I have gone back and reread and found that I do not feel the same way about them. Due to that, I keep that in mind when I read a review. With that said, people like different books and writing styles. A book I may love may be a book you hate. That is what makes the world a more interesting place. Actually, I think the books that provoke strong reactions are often worth reading.
I don’t think it is wise for an author make negative comments on reviews. They should learn from a negative review and look at it as constructive criticism in most cases and sometimes it is just worth forgetting about it… because you cannot please everyone. I do think I would look negatively on an author if they got pushy or ugly with me about my opinions and thoughts. Luckily, I have not had any interactions with authors that have been negative…yet.
I guess it would depend on what about a book is under attack. If it’s subject matter, that’s subjective. If it’s just lousy writing, not have command of the language, etc. that’s another. I haven’t had negative interactions with writers online (but then I don’t review books online either), but I have watched it from a distance and it’s most pathetic and embarrassing to witness. I wouldn’t hold it against an author, though, if friends or fans go insane over bad reviews of something they love. We can’t control what other people do.
This is something I’ve seen in multiple places where people are free to share their opinions. What they forget to do is actually read and think about any comments or reviews that are made and immediately respond based on emotions and at the same time feel they can hide behind the “protection” of the internet. Usually, these people wouldn’t even open their mouths in person.
As many have said here, if you put your work out for the world to see then people are entitled to comment and not everyone is going to like your work. It’s also up to people who run a site to make it clear what types of comment behavior are unacceptable and to enforce those rules.
I would be devastated if I got into an argument with an author I loved. Finding out someone you admire is petty is a huge let down.
This is basically the reason I try to avoid meeting famous people. I’m SO GLAD that my experience with David Sedaris turned out positive, because it could have ruined so much if the experience hadn’t been good.
Think of it this way, authors: if a stranger gives you a negative review, it means they read your book. So that’s something you can check off your list of accomplishments, and something many writers never get the chance to say. Even better, your work lit a fire in their soul, each word inciting stronger and stronger emotions until they had no choice but to pour them forth onto the digital canvas that is the goodreads “what did you think?” box. Wasn’t that the whole idea from the beginning? Sure, you could argue that your goal was to inspire positive feelings in your audience. But why so choosey? Isn’t the purpose of art to explore the full gamut of human experience? Consider yourself a navigator on the great experiential landscape of mankind.
Or, to put it another way, do not feed the trolls.
Among the author/reviewer scandals of late, there seem to be a disproportionate number of YA authors. Are they spending too much time with their hormonal characters and forgetting how being an adult works?
I like this theory.
I feel like it’s a matter of not being able to separate themselves from their work, so it becomes a personal attack, in their minds. So I don’t know how they survived the initial edits before their books even hit the shelves. It’s one thing for fans to get up in arms over a negative review of their favorite novel, and it’s another for the author to start slinging mud at people because they didn’t hear what they wanted to hear. Grow up is an understatement. It’s way too easy now to hit the send button after letting your anger and embarrassment guide your words without thinking it through, and authors should really know better, since you can’t sell your product very well if you’re gaining the reputation of being a jerk.
I cannot believe he blatantly told you he planned to write your “internet persona” in his next book. What the fudge, man? Did he really expect no retaliation after such an ignorant jab over something as silly as not getting his book reviewed? An ugly public interaction is definitely enough to sour me on an author and their work. I guess it would come down to not wanting to support an individual who exhibits that kind of stupid, childish behavior. There are plenty of amazingly awesome authors out there, I think I can skip out on the ones that can’t handle a bad review and/or criticism, and let everybody know it.
I’m sure it is exactly that. (And with authors like the one that attacked me, they probably edited their own work before it hit the shelves–he is vanity-published, and . . . . well, if you read the excerpts, it definitely shows.)
Oh my word, I see what you mean now. Oy.
I agree wholeheartedly with your reaction to Mr. Ross’ interaction with you. He’s the one asking for a favor, and then he goes and throws a tantrum. Funny how it works out though, the only person he made look like a fool was himself.
Personally, I’m bitchy enough to have reacted the very same way. As a matter of fact, I was treated very badly by the owner of a restaurant, and I have not returned since. This restaurant, The Potato Shack in Encinitas, Ca, is a place my mother has been taking me since I was about 4 years old. I happened to be working the yearly street fair in the same city. I had an encounter in which the man, easily twice my age cursed at me, in public for no good reason. Earlier that day, I had been recommending his establishment to visitors in the area, but after this experience, I spread the word about it. Not only have I not returned to eat at The Potato Shack, but neither has any of my family or friends…and a great deal of other strangers that I managed to steer away.
It’s called respect. That’s not too much to ask for. Unfortunately, these days, people are so caught up with their own importance, they forget that their fellow humans do not exist solely to kiss their asses.
When we make it back to CA, I will be sure never to eat at The Potato Shack. I’m glad now we never stopped in while driving up the coast! I don’t like it when anybody acts that rudely, but if you’re a business owner it’s especially absurd.
Sorely tempted to set up a ‘James Ross’ profile and incoherently rant at you but it would just be too much trouble. Too many good books to read.
I just treat all these messages as spam and delete them. I love the awkward ‘appearance’ of authors into groups on Shelfari – sometimes it is clear that they are trying to developing a personal relationship with the group before spamming or as an alternative to spamming but they write so incoherently (as they are probably commenting on every group they can find) that you wonder how someone who can’t write a sentence can be an author. (phew, finally found the full stop!)
You, sir, have an evil streak. I like it. Yes, I like it.
Oh man, I’m doing so much nodding with this comment stream that my neck is gettin’ tired.
It doesn’t bode very well does it, either for authorship in the specific case or humanity in general that there are jerks about who just can’t seem to take a step back and go “Cool, that’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it.” It’s like an earlier commenter said – it’s called respect. Heck, I’ll even take surface-respect; I don’t even care if they go away and mutter about my opinion under their breath, as long as they don’t a. rile me up, and b. make themselves look like idiots. Maybe it’s because everyone seems to think that what they do on the internet exists in a vaccuum? Still no excuse for being a twit, in my opinion – if someone rags on me in the computer, it still affects me in real life.
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My question is how do I drop my new friend, James? (I don’t answer my door if I don’t know who’s there, either.)